Episode 27

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7th Aug 2025

Is Fear of Living Holding You Back?

See how you can transform your life with the 4,000 Mondays mindset.

"From Corporate Stapler to 4,000 Mondays: How Death Became Her Life Coach"

Jodi Wellman spent 17 years climbing the corporate ladder until a simple stapler changed everything. After promising herself twice that she'd leave before running out of staples (and breaking that promise both times), she realized she was living in a "self-imposed sentence."

Now the founder of 4,000 Mondays and a TEDx speaker with 1.3M+ views, Jodi reveals: 

• Why "the fear of death is rivaled only by the fear of living"

• How counting your remaining Mondays creates urgent clarity

• The difference between regrets of commission vs. omission

• Why courage doesn't arrive on a platter - you have to create it first

• Her "pre-grets" exercise that prevents future regrets

The breakthrough moment: Realizing most of our barriers are just stories we tell ourselves to stay safe.

If you've ever felt stuck waiting for someone to save you from your own life, this conversation will be the wake-up call you didn't know you needed. Sometimes the smallest moments - like running out of staples - spark the biggest transformations.

🎧 Perfect for anyone ready to stop living small and start designing a life with no regrets.

This episode is packed with inspiring stories and practical advice for anyone looking to make meaningful changes in their life.

Chapters:

  • 00:00:00 - Introduction: Embracing the Fear of Truly Living
  • 00:00:58 - Meet Jodi Wellman: Founder of 4,000 Mondays
  • 00:01:58 - Jodi’s Corporate Journey: The Eye-Opening Stapler Story
  • 00:04:54 - A Life-Changing Moment: Seeking Coaching and Discovering Passion
  • 00:06:21 - Living Authentically: Conquering Fear and Avoiding Regret
  • 00:09:45 - Mortality as a Motivator: Finding Purpose in Life’s Limits
  • 00:13:47 - Intentional Living: How to Make the Most of Every Moment
  • 00:19:37 - Finding Joy in Everyday Moments: Practical Tips
  • 00:21:34 - The Icebreaker That Sparked Transformation
  • 00:22:49 - Micro Moments of Change: Small Steps to Big Transformations
  • 00:24:50 - Facing and Overcoming the Fear of Change
  • 00:28:34 - The Transformative Power of Taking Action
  • 00:33:57 - Embracing Life’s Impermanence: Living Fully
  • 00:36:22 - Final Thoughts: Inspiration to Live Authentically and Fully

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and then I did this
The unique journeys of individuals who've had the courage to break free and live life on their own terms.
"And Then I Did This" brings you the unique journeys of individuals who've had the courage to break free and live life on their own terms.

Each episode takes you behind the scenes of an ordinary person's extraordinary transformation. You'll hear from those who've walked away from the beaten path to pursue work and a life that nourishes their soul. Their stories prove that you truly can be free to live your best and most authentic life.

Get ready to be inspired as we explore the challenges, triumphs, and lessons learned from those who dared to create the life of their dreams. Whether it's leaving the corporate grind to start a small business, embarking on a midlife career change, or simply redesigning your daily routine to prioritize your passions - the guests on "And Then I Did This" show you that it's possible to break free and live life on your own terms.

Join us each week and prepare to be motivated, encouraged, and empowered to take the first steps toward more freedom in your life.

If you're feeling inspired and ready to explore your own path to freedom, check out YouCanBeFree.life where you'll find resources and support to help you break free and live life on your own terms.

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