Episode 32

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17th Feb 2026

Private Equity Consultant to Co-Founder: Making Brands AI Visible

Sami Akkawi shares his unconventional journey from consulting for private equity firms to co-founding Petra Labs, an AI-powered brand visibility marketing startup.

After conducting nearly 1,000 interviews with senior marketing professionals at companies such as Nike and Pepsi, Sammi identified a critical gap: brands have no visibility into how AI tools like ChatGPT and Perplexity describe them to potential customers.

Despite AI search representing only a fraction of total search volume, visitors from these platforms convert at significantly higher rates because users trust AI recommendations more than traditional sources—sometimes even more than their colleagues and friends.

Sami discusses the mindset shifts required for entrepreneurship, including moving from instant gratification to long-term, process-oriented thinking; the importance of surrounding yourself with ambitious people; and why taking risks before AI transformed the job market was crucial to his decision.

He offers candid insights on staying motivated through team collaboration, redefining what "winning" means as a founder, and why he believes we're witnessing one of the last opportunities to create enterprise value without deep technical skills.

The conversation explores the broader implications of AI on performance marketing, the future of search, and practical advice for anyone considering leaving their traditional career to pursue something more meaningful.

Chapters:

(00:00:00) - What If You Actually Did the Thing?

(00:00:47) - From Chicago Kid to Consultant: Sami's Unconventional Path

(00:02:18) - Inside 40 Deals and 1,000 Conversations with Marketing Leaders

(00:04:21) - The Million-Dollar Blind Spot Even Big Marketers Couldn't See

(00:05:32) - When Robots Control Your Brand Story (And You Don't Even Know It)

(00:07:15) - Why We Trust ChatGPT More Than the People We Work With

(00:09:04) - The AI Battle: Which Search Tool Actually Wins?

(00:10:42) - How to Keep Going When Nothing Happens for Months

(00:12:18) - Breaking the Addiction to Quick Wins

(00:14:26) - The Vision That Made Him Quit Everything

(00:16:03) - Why Waiting Might Mean It's Already Too Late

(00:17:45) - You Become Who You Surround Yourself With

(00:20:12) - What Freedom Actually Costs (And Why It's Worth It)

(00:22:08) - The One Skill That Changes Everything: Ownership

(00:24:35) - Your Past Doesn't Define Your Future

(00:26:47) - The Truth About Risk (Spoiler: Safety Is an Illusion)

(00:28:22) - So... What Are You Going to Do?

Links and Resources:

  1. Sami Akkawi on LinkedIn
  2. Petra Labs
  3. LuRae Lumpkin on LinkedIn
  4. You Can Be Free Newsletter
  5. You Can Be Free on YouTube

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